tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post6783932092816580773..comments2023-10-25T04:22:54.910-07:00Comments on An Anglican Priest: The Ruminations of a Canterbury Cap Catholic: Rev. Dr. Hasserthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14350737386756722887noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-49531850621833448162007-07-30T17:26:00.000-07:002007-07-30T17:26:00.000-07:00I am a pastoral convert to Anglicanism, from the P...I am a pastoral convert to Anglicanism, from the Presby world to the REC and I am finding them to be very humble.Mike Sprenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095027063868121101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-24633630497443974682007-07-27T09:04:00.000-07:002007-07-27T09:04:00.000-07:00as a former REC, I would say there are no more "Eg...as a former REC, I would say there are no more "Ego's" in the REC that you would not find anyplace else. Sin is always the culpret. <BR/> I will say that I saw allot of growth from low Church to High Church in my time their but....there is still more growth that needs to happen. There are still may Presbyterian thinking Anglicans within the fold but, I am sure they will eventually outgrow that.<BR/> TimotheusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-67783956342910529502007-07-26T20:08:00.000-07:002007-07-26T20:08:00.000-07:00P.S. I think that the first comment in this listin...P.S. I think that the first comment in this listing is largely correct. Those who are now leaving the Anglican Communion or view themselves as the new Anglican Communion (the global south, those now departing ECUSA) look at those that stick to the 1662 and 1928 BCPs and the old theology of the 17th-19th centuries as not a wee bit odd. Of course, if you ask thse folks anything about the history of Anglicanism they may be at a loss. Again, going back to my main point--those leaving now have had almost little or no contact with what was called Anglicanism for several centuries. The Anglicanism they know are (often) based on whatever they grew up with--the new Prayer Book, the new Catechism, and the new teachings from the official publishing houses of ECUSA of the CofE. So we are to a large degree viewed as the Old Calendar Orthodox or the Latin Rite Romans. However, that doesn't mean that what we are trying to preserve isn't Anglicanism--based on the evidence of history, it is.<BR/><BR/>AC+Rev. Dr. Hasserthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350737386756722887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-18393458786228003562007-07-26T19:35:00.000-07:002007-07-26T19:35:00.000-07:00I considered deleting the anonymous post crying ou...I considered deleting the anonymous post crying out "Don't go into the REC!" <BR/><BR/>However, I'll let it stand and say that it is nonsense. I've been in three other Anglican groups and the Reformed Episcopal Church is by far the healthiest I've come across. I would say it is the most balanced of the traditional churches. It is no longer "low church," but by no means Anglo-Catholic (although there are Anglo-Catholics in the REC, and I consider myself among them). It is the largest group (not saying much, since most of the Anglican groups outside of ECUSA are so small) most devoted to the Anglicanism of the Book of Common Prayer. If you are an evangelical drawn to Anglicanism, I'd say read Jewel's "Apology for the Church of England" and Cranmer's text on the Eucharist, as well as Book Five of Hooker's Polity, the Articles and the Prayer Book. If you find yourself in agreement with the logic and sentiments of those works, you'll be at home with the traditional Anglicanism of the REC.<BR/><BR/>AC+Rev. Dr. Hasserthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350737386756722887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-76072321323285678272007-07-26T12:27:00.000-07:002007-07-26T12:27:00.000-07:00DONT GO INTO THE REC!!! BIG ego issues.dazedDONT GO INTO THE REC!!!<BR/><BR/> BIG ego issues.<BR/><BR/>dazedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-14308673763942566442007-07-26T11:49:00.000-07:002007-07-26T11:49:00.000-07:00What counsel would you give a young (30-something)...What counsel would you give a young (30-something) evangelical pastor who is drawn to Anglicanism, cannot in good conscience submit to ECUSA, yet is afraid of joining yet another Protestant "splinter" group?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-22725984057907449432007-07-14T10:07:00.000-07:002007-07-14T10:07:00.000-07:00Death Bredon is quite right about Bishop Doren. He...Death Bredon is quite right about Bishop Doren. He was an old fashioned high church Anglican and not the low churchman he was made out to be. The problem with the ACC was that while the people were quite Catholic in the Anglican sense, the earliest bishops were all pseuco=papists with each believing himself to be the new Anglican pope. <BR/><BR/>The problem with traditional Anglicanism is that it is infested with men who know how to take a promise while holding their fingers crossed behind their backs. They refuse to read and acknowledge what the traditional Anglican documents require because they are determined to create their own religion just as soon as they have a parish. It really is a shame, but until we teach our children to read and understand what is on the page, it will probably continue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-77712785918628852622007-07-08T16:46:00.000-07:002007-07-08T16:46:00.000-07:00Anglican Clerk,One minor quibble. I would say tha...Anglican Clerk,<BR/><BR/>One minor quibble. I would say that the UEC, given its originator, was more of an Old-High Church jurisdiction. Indeed, I don't think Dale would have signed onto the St. Louis Statement were he really "low church." <BR/><BR/>Though Prayer-Book in worship, and therefore easily seen confused with Prayer-Book Evangelicals (which the REC has historically been) and accepting of the 39 Articles, the UEC also, atleast until very recently publicly reject any Calvinistic construction thereof, though admitting some good points about Calvin and Luther. To me, this sounds like the High-Churchman of Yore who were Protestant and Catholic; small-r reformed but not capital-R Reformed.<BR/><BR/>But, as you note, the point is moot now.<BR/><BR/>XpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-31879712333530851832007-07-03T06:20:00.000-07:002007-07-03T06:20:00.000-07:00Thanks for this article.Having not read Dr. McGlyn...Thanks for this article.<BR/><BR/>Having not read Dr. McGlynn, I dare comment anyway. If we are contemplating a return to an Anglicanism which would be closer to Orthodoxy and the Anglican Divines, the problem with implementing such a scheme is that such Anglicanism is a small minority throughout the Communion. <BR/><BR/>The AMiA, CANA and now KACA (Kenya) are each sponsored by Provinces which have abandoned classical Anglicanism for a new and emerging "conservative" liturgical protestantism. (e.x. using liturgies more similar to the '79 than to classical liturgies - and an upcoming AMiA conference will feature a Southern Baptist expert on leadership development.)<BR/><BR/>So, while the AMiA, CANA and KACA are "doing a new thing", their new things look and sound much more like global south Anglicanism than do those NA groups (such as the REC)which are seeking a continuation of our English Reformation roots. <BR/><BR/>Was Professor Guelzo correct when he wrote (paraphrasing), "perhaps the greatest irony of the REC is that, now when she desires to return to her Anglican roots, there may be no Anglicanism left to go home to." <BR/><BR/>Within the official Communion, perhaps a diocese on each continent, perhaps a bishop or priest here or there swim against the tide. But the vast majority of Anglicanism has moved on. <BR/><BR/>In light of this global situation, is it any wonder that these newer groups have not joined with those of us who are seeking the "ancient paths"? Is it any wonder that global south leaders view us "Classical Anglicans" as something akin to "Old Calendar Catholics"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com