tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post5204165037807632100..comments2023-10-25T04:22:54.910-07:00Comments on An Anglican Priest: The Ruminations of a Canterbury Cap Catholic: Rev. Dr. Hasserthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14350737386756722887noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-20929200809423551332010-08-04T21:41:27.707-07:002010-08-04T21:41:27.707-07:00Yeah, ++Frederick and ++William blew 'Apostoli...Yeah, ++Frederick and ++William blew 'Apostolicae Curae' out of the water with 'Saepius Officio'. And they did it better Latin, by all accounts. So Anglicans win on both counts. Too bad our position has been weakened by 'liberal' policies over the last half-century.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-27282000401356463932007-08-09T16:43:00.000-07:002007-08-09T16:43:00.000-07:00What has struck me most about this latest proclama...What has struck me most about this latest proclamation from the Vatican is to what purpose? It really does not add, change or better define the position of the RCC. And, the careful reiteration of what constitutes a church and what constitutes an ecclesial body looks like the launching point of something. Could that be a revisiting of Leo XIII's position in "light" of new evidence? I suspect there is keen interest on the part of the Holy See to see orthodox, catholic practice in the West gathered to it--and, a reversal of sorts on this for those provinces and jurisdictions which have not followed the innovations of the last four decades may be occupying more than a few cardinals and monsignors. Does anyone else sense that "Madame protesteth too much" in this new proclamation?<BR/><BR/>There also seems to be a forced tone of moderation of late in the EWTN broadcasts I've heard when Anglicans are mentioned. It certainly contrasts with the rabid dismissals of six to ten months ago. Does that signal a rapprochement of sorts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-34520509174702817992007-08-09T11:29:00.000-07:002007-08-09T11:29:00.000-07:00The major difference between Roman ecclesiology an...The major difference between Roman ecclesiology and that of the wider catholic Church is that Rome forgives herself of those faults of which she finds herself unable to forgive others. Rome is unable to hold herself to the stadards to which she holds others because her performance is and has been like that of the current Episcopal Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-26682424573721304112007-08-08T11:18:00.000-07:002007-08-08T11:18:00.000-07:00I suspect a lot of the de facto acceptence of the ...I suspect a lot of the de facto acceptence of the "minority report" in contemporary Orthodoxy is largely caused by recent Episcopagan and Canterbogus nonsense. And, Orthodoxy simply hasn't got the time to strain the the Alphabet Soup of "extramural" Anglicanism to throw us Anglo-Traditionalists a bone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-39466307602522739092007-08-08T08:21:00.000-07:002007-08-08T08:21:00.000-07:00Sad that the Orthodox later went with a minority r...Sad that the Orthodox later went with a minority report position; a minority rejected Anglican Orders, and the larger group took up that position in practice as well. The earlier documents are importent though, for they express honest theology rather than a working out of a priori assumptions as with the Roman position.Rev. Dr. Hasserthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350737386756722887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29191589.post-8858148226082982352007-08-08T05:37:00.000-07:002007-08-08T05:37:00.000-07:00I much prefer ancient ecclessiology to Roman, whic...I much prefer ancient ecclessiology to Roman, which generally emphasizes real-world history and broad principles, rather than technical "touching rules." Indeed, for the undivided Church of antiquity (until Cyprian), the question of orders is simply (1) whether Anglicans (or any group) is an unbroken organic institutional offspring from the Church at Pentecost (regardless of hyper technical, largely medieval procedural rules of succession)and (2) whether it now confesses authentic Christianity.<BR/><BR/>The answer to the first is obvious. Regardless what procedurul rules of succession you apply (and those mostly human traditions), the English Church (Ecclesia Anglicana) is an unbroken and organic offspring of the first, undivided Christian Churc.<BR/><BR/>The answer to the second wold be debatable among Orthodox perhaps, especially in light of our poor disciplinary history and extreme tolerance of diverse theological views, but I believe that the Formulative, Constitutive pronouncements and documents that historically signify and define Anglicanism are simply the same as those of the Primitive and Ancient Church.<BR/><BR/>Hence, its is not surprising that, back in the 1930s, when the question of Anglican Orders was taken up by many Orthodox, a much more affirmative response tended to expressed than that of Rome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com